elektrisches heckscheibenrollo e30 m3

[e30mane]

 Hallo zusammen, ich bin hierher gekommen, in der Hoffnung, einen Streit auf den englischsprachigen Seiten beizulegen.
Ich habe, glaube ich, einen elektrischen Sonnenschirm E30 M3.
Die Geschichte, die ich von meinem Freund gehört habe, ist, dass dieser Sonnenschirm vor etwa 15 Jahren von einem deutschen Markt E30 M3 stammte.
Ich kann keine Dokumentation dazu finden. Können Sie mir bitte sagen, was ich hier habe?
Ich bin mir sicher, dass mindestens einer von euch es schon einmal gesehen hat.

Bitte entschuldigen Sie mein Deutsch, ich benutze einen Übersetzer. 

Bearbeitet: 4. Oktober 2023 von e30mane

[Christian R]

Hallo,

 

das originale e30 elektrische Heckrollo gab es. Es sieht aber beim e30 anders aus als deine Variante. Jedoch kenne ich dies nur vom normalen e30. 
 

Ob es im m3 ein elektrisches gab welches wie deins anders aufgebaut ist, weiß ich nicht.

Im normalen e30 hat es in der Mitte eine Führung in der das Rollo mit Spindel hoch und runter gefahren wird. Deins scheint ein sogenanntes Rollo mit Scherenheber zu sein. Eventuell von einem anderen bmw. Findest du eine Bmw Nummer auf dem Rollo?

 

Anbei ein Bild vom normalen e30 elektrischem Heckrollo:

 

Best regards 

 

Christian 

 

ps.: I hope the googel translator let you know what I mean, if not feel free and ask again.

 

[Eudenbacher]

Hallo, geht es nur um das Rollo, oder das Rollo mit der Hutablage? Die abgebildete Hutablage hat die Aussparung für die originale 3. Bremsleuchte. Diese war in Deutschland sicherlich recht selten bis garnicht geordert. Daher tippe ich auf ein US-Teil.

[Herbert_1980]

Hello Mane,

 

At that time, this roller blind was offered in the BMW accessories catalog with which you could, among other things, upgrade the E30. There were 2 versions, one with a climbing stick in the middle, and the folded version like you have. Electric blinds are very rare, the folded version is ultra rare, so only a few people know that the roller blind even existed in this version.

[tequ]

am vor 1 Stunde schrieb Herbert_1980:

Hello Mane,

 

At that time, this roller blind was offered in the BMW accessories catalog with which you could, among other things, upgrade the E30. There were 2 versions, one with a climbing stick in the middle, and the folded version like you have. Electric blinds are very rare, the folded version is ultra rare, so only a few people know that the roller blind even existed in this version.

Wieder was dazu gelernt, Klasse!

danke für deinen Beitrag 👍🏼

[e30mane]

am vor 8 Stunden schrieb Eudenbacher:

Hello, is it just the roller blind or the roller blind with the hat shelf? The parcel shelf shown has the recess for the original 3rd brake light. This was certainly rarely or never ordered in Germany. That's why I'm guessing a US part.

Hallo, vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht. Ich habe dieses Foto nur mit der Hutablage gemacht, um zu zeigen, wie sie dort sitzt. Es gehört ursprünglich nicht dazu

 

[e30mane]

am vor 7 Stunden schrieb Herbert_1980:

Hello Mane,

 

At that time, this roller blind was offered in the BMW accessories catalog with which you could, among other things, upgrade the E30. There were 2 versions, one with a climbing stick in the middle, and the folded version like you have. Electric blinds are very rare, the folded version is ultra rare, so only a few people know that the roller blind even existed in this version.

Hallo, vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht. Haben Sie Fotos davon im Katalog oder in einem Auto? Ich würde mich über einen konkreten Beweis freuen.

[jenad]

Bro‘s an unbeliever.

 

https://greifenhain.net/bmw/zubehoerpros/page_05.htm

 

It‘s the 1989 one, showing the blind w the scissors mechanic. 
 

Link that thread plz. I wanna have a look at it. 😉

[e30mane]

am Am 4.10.2023 um 19:11 schrieb jenad:

Bro‘s an unbeliever.

 

https://greifenhain.net/bmw/zubehoerpros/page_05.htm

 

It‘s the 1989 one, showing the blind w the scissors mechanic. 
 

Link that thread plz. I wanna have a look at it. 😉

Thank you for your reply.

 

I'm not sure that it's the same part as in that brochure.

 

Please have a look at the YouTube short I just uploaded demonstrating how it opens.

 

Please note that the switch was not included and I wired it myself.

 

There is also a screw to adjust the travel length. I put it to maximum to demonstrate that the blind has not been damaged at all.

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/7uUJpMVhrnM?si=jj-nsfjSwt_9rSDF

Bearbeitet: 6. Oktober 2023 von e30mane

[jenad]

Judging by your vid, your shade might not be the E30 one. Might be the angle, but it seems to be too large imho. The mechanic seems different too.

 

In general, it can be stated that 2 different versions of the electric sun blind were offered. The older one w the center guide (which I own too for example) and the newer one shown in the link I posted.

 

Both versions are rather crude constructions by nowadays standards, designed as retrofits and come w flocked boxes to mount on the rear window shelves. The original wiring which came w these sets wasn't really more than a pair of speaker wires, 2 pins to attach it to the cigarette lighter and a switch.  At least the first version wasn't even BMW exclusive, it was used in older Mercedes as well.

 

So the style of your sunshade certainly fits to the late E30 era, but it's imho not 100% clear if  it's really an E30 one.

[e30mane]

Do you know who is the manufacturer of the OEM power sunshades?

[jenad]

No. Unfortunately not.

[e30mane]

The last hope I have is that this is an m3 specific sunshade. If anyone has a pdf for the brochure of e30 m3 addon parts, I would greatly appreciate it!!

[jenad]

I guess that's more like wishful thinking.

 

[Black Hurricane]

Could be from a E34. Long time that i read about it but the E34 electric sunshade can be installed in the E30, but then the angle isnt completly right. But its still usable.

[Christian R]

I never have seen this version in real life as a original e30 part. Maybee someone knows a owner of this rare part and can send u detailed pics? 
 

For me the switch not looks like original e30 or you use it only for demonstration? 

[jenad]

It's been a while since I last messed w electric sunshades, but imho all OEM BMW ones didn't have linked rods. After watching the pics and vid again on desktop, I would tend to say it's an aftermarket solution. Both OEM E30 e-sunshades seem to share the same more triangular-shaped casing, which is different from the one the OP has.

 

Edit: Electric sunshade

[Russland Racing]

So it's not only the knowledge, your english seems pretty good too.

 

[e30mane]

Thanks everyone. This will remain a mystery! 

 

By the way, the switch and wiring is something I made myself, as the original was missing. 

 

If anyone is interested I'm asking $500USD. 

 

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[GearX]

Most likely this is nothing that came from any OEM manufacturer. Why? Take a look at any german car brand with these electric sunshades. No one uses the scissor mechanism. Only a few aftermarket products come with this mechanism.

[Christian R]

Ich habe auch noch die Originale Einbau bzw Nachtüst Anleitung vom e Rollo meine ich. Falls das jemandem hilft kann ich die mal fotografieren.

[*Thomas*]

am vor 12 Stunden schrieb Christian R:

Ich habe auch noch die Originale Einbau bzw Nachtüst Anleitung vom e Rollo meine ich. Falls das jemandem hilft kann ich die mal fotografieren.

Das wäre super, wenn du mir das zukommen lassen könntest.

Habe noch einen Rollo im Keller zum Nachrüsten liegen, sobald mein MT1 mal vom Lackierer zurück kommt.

Leider ohne Kabelbaum...aber der sollte sich leicht selbst bauen lassen.

Bearbeitet: 20. Oktober 2023 von *Thomas*

[jenad]

Siehe Anhang

EinbauanleitungHeckscheibenrollo.pdf

[Christian R]

Da war jemand schneller